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Yes your rationale makes perfect sense for why to show those 3 examples - first trial being potentially a bit too hard allows you to get to efficient communication much more quickly than starting with examples that are too easy and potentially are slower to communicate the rule and potentially more likely to induce stipulation (E.g. that you can only substitute for numbers). And certainly it will come down to a judgement of the class too and you can respond in the moment if you have gone too hard. I think I will change some of my sequences based on this conversation.

I still don't yet believe that the sameness or difference principles apply here or to any transformation as every change in the input results in a change to the output. The difference principle is that when a minimal change results in a change in label then we narrow down what causes a change in the label and by extrapolation can rule out as many possible reasons for the change in label as possible. Whereas the sameness principle is that a great change in input resulting in no change to the label implies a large number of possible cases for which the label still applies by interpolation. But perhaps my understanding of the principles is limited to (categoricals)?

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Thanks for this.

To me it seems that the examples you present seem reasonable in showing the transformation rule here (replace the letter with its given value in brackets) and show a good range of variation which would hopefully be sufficient to induce generalisation.

I don't quite understand what you say about the sameness and difference prompts. If changing from x = 3 to x = 31 leads to a difference in the way we treat the example, then changing from x = 31 to y = 6a also leads to a difference in the way we treat the example.

It seems you've deviated from Theory of Instruction in this which suggests it is preferable to model the first 2 to 5 with minimum difference variations, to include at least 2 test examples as minimum difference variations, and then potentially have maximum difference variations that learners attempt (which forms part of the expansion sequence). My guess is that you've done that to a) reinforce important idea of minimal and maximal difference prompts , b) make it more consistent with approach for ‘Categoricals' and hence make it easier for teachers to remember and c) to reduce the time spent on the modelled examples, hoping that the rule has already been made sufficiently clear so showing the maximal variation in your example is more likely to induce the desired generalisation. Is that correct? Under what conditions would you err more on doing it in the manner prescribed in ToI?

Thanks, very much enjoying the blog.

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